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Pocket/Cavity Sliding doors & Framing

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  • 2024-02-29 at 00:18 #16681
    AlexKAlexK
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    Hi Everyone,

    I havent been posting for a while.

    I would like to say all the best for 2024!

    My concern is that the Framing does not adjust for Pocket/Cavity Sliding doors.

    I usually allow…width of door x 2 + 50mm (2″) for the Cavity frame work.

    Would you be able to check this for me please. I have a small example I have uploaded.

    Cheers Everyone.

    Framed-Example-CS-door-Issue

    Cadsoft-CS-door-Frame-issue

     

    2024-02-29 at 08:49 #16686
    Cadsoft530Nicholas Cudmore
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    Hi Alex,

    Thanks for sending in your question and all the best to you and yours in 2024 as well.

    Before I investigate this further, I want to be sure I understand what you are looking for. I am attaching an image of what a pocket door frame looks like, is this what you were expecting?
    How to Install a Pocket Door

    Thanks Alex,

    Nick

    2024-04-23 at 22:00 #16807
    FynrDzynrFynrDzynr
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    G’day Alex!

    Long time no chat

    But I can’t remember Envisioneer EVER framing around cavity sliders (aka pocket doors) correctly.

    The opening in the wall frame is NEVER wide enough.

    If there’s a trick to getting it like we build here in Oz, I’ve never been able to find it.

    2024-04-23 at 22:03 #16810
    FynrDzynrFynrDzynr
    Participant

    2D plan view showing opening should be just 1 stud from the wall intersection

    2025-05-07 at 22:09 #17489
    AlexKAlexK
    Participant

    Hello Nick,

    sorry I totally forgot about this post!

    to have the pocket door frame as shown in your attached picture would be nice, but

    all I was after was that the header abd Frame opening allow for the pocket frame as well as the door opening.

    I was trying to figure out framing rules when I remembered this post.

    I came up with the following…

    I turned the framing mode on after I inserted a Garage door and a Pocket door, I cliked on the frame opening of the pocket door and adjusted

    the king stud/Door stud over by the door width plus 50mm, eg.(820×2+50=1690 for opening)

    I have made an opening in the FramingLibrary for a Pocket door, but I would have to manually change this on each door and each project.

    Can this be adjusted  to suit each Pocket door Size?

    I have been extensively working on Estimating & Framing, and this would make it that much more accurate.

    (By the way in Framing, even though I do not use 2 top plates for the internal walls CS Envisioneer draws all the internal walls the

    same Height as the External Load bearing walls, is there a fix for this)

    cheers.

    2025-06-24 at 17:55 #17573
    louisacolouisaco
    Moderator

    Hi Alex,

    Thanks for explanation.

    There may not be a way to automatically adjust the pocket door framing for different sizes right away, but I’ll double-check.  Did you save your customized frame to the Head/Sill/Jamb library? That way, you can simply select it from the list when inserting a pocket door of that size.

    Regarding the wall heights: in Framing mode, the wall height is controlled by the building locations for each level. If your internal walls need to be a different height from the external load-bearing walls, you can adjust them manually.
    Select any interior wall>Right-click >Select all similar
    Right-click again Under “Top Edge: Level,” change it from Building Locations to User Defined
    Then input the desired height

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